I appreciate the clarification concerning the Schapp interview. I never thought for a second that any of you guys condoned or minimized the abuse. However, I do feel that Ken Schapp definitely minimized what his family did. I understand the forgiveness, and that is what God calls us to do. I am glad that God has helped him to get to the point of forgiveness for his family. I did not feel that he focused enough on the victims and how this has impacted their lives forever. How that his dad and grandfather and uncle could have possibly sent many souls to Hell by their hypocrisy. Those are things that have eternal consequences. Although God will forgive, He only forgives those who are truly repentant. I don’t see true repentance in the Hyles/Schapp stories. Only blame and justification.